After a multi-year transition, Annette Martin's fee-based business accounted for nearly half her production by the end of 2013. Moreover, her total production has increased to $1.2 million from $520,000 in the past four years. It was a good idea to shift over to a more fee-based practice, says the Fulton Financial advisor.
For one thing, besides having significantly better production numbers, Martin says, Now my income is absolutely more predictable. She recalls, Back in 2008, before I was doing any fee-based business, there was a lot of panic. Now, with my fee-based clients, even when the market goes down, I dont get many of those frantic phone calls. People understand that with a managed account they have diversification and flexibility, so they dont have to read something bad in the paper and then think, Gee, I should have shifted my assets last week.
In making the shift of clients from a transaction-based to a more fee-based practice, Martin says the first thing she considers is asset size. As a bank-based advisor, I have to serve everyone, but you really need to have at least $100,000 in investable assets in order to build a diversified portfolio, she says. With at least that much money to work with, we can build a portfolio thats appropriate to the needs, desires and risk preference of the client.
With her fee-based clients, Martin says she has time to really get to know them. I end up focusing on a smaller group of clients, and giving them much more personal service, she says. Spending that extra time, she adds, also helps her to uncover more client assets. She has high praise for Raymond James Goal Planning and Monitoring (GPM) financial planning software, which she says makes it easy to demonstrate visually to clients how slight adjustments in their wants and needs can produce significant differences in how a client or a client couple live in retirement. Using those tools can also help her discover and pry loose client assets not currently being handed over to her to manage.
Sometimes people dont even remember things they own, she says, like an old IRA held somewhere. And there is often money that is invested in some other place that they arent initially telling me about. For example, she cites a bank referral she got recently. The person had a maturing CD that they hadnt tracked in years, and rates were going down. We started with that money, which I invested for the client. As this person felt more comfortable with me, we dug a little deeper. I asked one day if he had any investments elsewhere, and he said, Yeah, I have an old 401(k) and an IRA. All that money was then brought over to us, she says. This kind of situation is very common.
As her fee-business has grown, the source of her new clients has shifted too, with fewer new people coming from in-bank referrals, and more coming from referrals by existing clients. Typically, those client referrals are people who arent already banking with Fulton Financial, though many, once they become her clients, will become bank customers too.
Typically with her fee-based clients, Martin says a bank product will be used for holding short-term money. Then I look at managed money as the middle bucket, for assets that we dont plan to use for four to five years. That would be for things like a new roof or a new car that we want to pay for without having to pay some penalty .and we might use an annuity for long-term income. So we are achieving all the clients goals with fee-based products.
Not all clients with significant assets want a fee-based account. It doesnt work for someone who doesnt want any market fluctuation, she explains. Some older people especially dont want any risk at all. Theyre happy earning 1% on their money and having no risk. Sometimes, I can show them the advantage of taking some of their money and putting it in to a fee-based product And if they still show no interest? Im ok with that, as long as Ive explained the alternative to them.
As to her bank, she says, They say its my practice, and if I do whats best for the client, theyre happy. They dont tell me how to do it. Im the one who develops a relationship with the clients and their children, but being fee-based works to the banks advantage because that deeper relationship I have with my clients also is a relationship they have with the bank.
Toward that end she says she tries to include bank personnel in her client meetings, particularly when someone in the bank has referred a client. Its good for them and its good for me to do that, she says, adding that clients like the idea too.
Looking forward to 2014, Martin says I think were going to have a strong year, though not as strong as 2013. Im sure there will be bumps in the road, but if I work to set clients expectations realistically, I shouldnt have those panic calls.
Her hope is that her clients will all be able to afford the retirement that they dreamed of having, and that they dont come up short like some of the people who used to apply to that retirement community where she used to work.
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